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Gear Head Joined: 05-26-2004, 09:18 AM Posts: 905 Location: Dayton, OH
There are as many games as there are things to make games about, sometimes more. What are your key interests? I'm a history nut, and like most historical games, but I also enjoy fantasy and the old Battletech stuff. One of my current favorites is Flintloque fantasy Napoleonic gaming. Only the UK can come up with this sort of thing. Any of the nations of the Napoleonic wars is represented by a fantasy race. British are orcs, French are elves. The game comes from Scotland, and they peg the Scotts Highlanders as rats. The Irish are the Toadaroni, so that gives you an idea what sort of figures you would see in that army.
Anyway, try to figure out an era or a genre you like. I'm sure you can find all sorts of guidance once you get that far.
Gear Head Joined: 05-26-2004, 09:18 AM Posts: 905 Location: Dayton, OH
In addition to looking at the blogs and company sites, look at Boardgamegeek.com, TheMiniaturespage.com (think that one is a dot com, I rarely use it except to look at pages that I get links for), and http://grognard.com/ for lots of info on games. That last one also posts links for free games to download and try out. Find an era and then look at the rules available. Everyone has a favorite, and almost everyone has one that they absolutely hate, so weigh some of those feelings in the light that every game out there has somebody that loves it, or it would never have been published. Also, when you find a game that you would like to try, you might consider a search of Ebay to see if somebody else is trying to part with a copy - you can get lightly used games for about half the retail price that way. I got started with my Flintloque and Slaughterloo stuff there, and am now assisting the US rep in doing demo games with it. If you really like it, then go for the new expansions and modules from the local game store - keep the company making new products and help keep the game store going, so you have a place to play and buy from. Hate to say it, but if everyone only shopped Ebay, the game companies would eventually go away. And, yes, absolutely, watch for Wormhole.
I love history and historical games - sorta stuck in that grove since my mom read 30 Seconds Over Tokyo to me when I was a wee little tyke. I ended up teaching military history for a couple of years before I retired from the Army, and I played historical games to try to improve my soldier skills. Now I can enjoy historicals or fantasy, sci-fi or whatever just for fun. I still have my own feelings about what a game has to say to me, but it's not the overwhelming thing it used to be. I found Flintloque to be a good mix, historical uniforms on fantasy races. Not everyone will like having their dogs in Austrian uniforms, and I know a few Italian people who aren't real happy at their nation being represented by the Toadaroni. But the people who created the game represented their own Scots Highlanders with rats in kilts, so what can you expect out of their sense of humor.
Cost is always a factor, but when you look at it in number of hours of fun vs cost of game, it usually works out as a fairly inexpensive hobby.
Hmmm, what to play really depends on a lot of things. Rather importantly:
Do you like to paint miniatures? Me, I love it. I like being able to look at a painted army and say 'I did that!' If not, then the choices change, while there are a fair number of prepainted miniatures out there many suffer from a bad case of random packaging.
How big an army do you want to start with? Some games are designed to be played with big armies, others with smaller ones. Smaller games include WARMACHINE and Mordheim. While both are fantasy games they are quite different in both rules and setting. WARMACHINE is mostly about wizards and their big steam powered Warjacks, steam powered golems with magical brains. Mordheim is about gang warfare in a ruined city. If you want to give WARMACHINE a try you can find quickstart rules The full rules for are available as a free download.
An advantage of Mordheim is that many of the figures can be used for Warhammer, a mass combat wargame. Also available as a free download is , like Mordheim this is a gang war, this time in a grim science fiction setting. World Works Games own Platform Command is a great fit for Necromunda.
The small scale games are a lot easier to get in to, and are often more fun as well. I ran a Mordheim campaign for two years, and had a great deal of fun while doing so. Currently I am playing WARMACHINE, and again, I am having a blast. Given a choice between the two I would choose Mordheim, but both are great fun.
The Auld Grump
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.
Gear Head Joined: 04-03-2007, 06:11 PM Posts: 816 Location: Ft. Pierce, FL
If you want to start with a zombies game, theirs some great frfee rules to try, that happen to mesh very well with the Mayhem sets (Zombie Plague, Dead Walk Again). Let me know and I'll give you the rules links. I'll also send you our easy Home rules, that are designed to play one building to an entire town layout.
Gear Head Joined: 04-03-2007, 06:11 PM Posts: 816 Location: Ft. Pierce, FL
Forgot about Shellendrac and its fun zombie treasure hunt Wierd, since its my biggest project to date and IK'm always looking at part of it in my office.
Sky Captian Joined: 08-03-2005, 10:45 AM Posts: 2378 Location: Seattle, WA (Ruins of Mega-City Two)
Hulkster, you also haven't given many games a chance. Technically, heroclix requirement measurements to move as well... it's just simplified by having a grid and a set movement space.
Take Gangs of Mega-City One for example. A human gang member has a movement of 5", which drops to 4" if they wear padded armor, or 3" if they put on a nice shell jacket. Sure, you could play the game with just a tape measure, but instead, I print all my terrain as gridded, and most time I don't need to measure for movement. If a weapon has a range of 10", it's easy to count the squares. The only time that changes (which is fairly often to be honest) is if you are moving or shooting at an angle, i.e. not along the grid. I often approximate that to keep things moving.
I know there are wargames out there like Warhammer which are measuring intensive, but a lot of skirmish games really aren't that bad. Try em out
I'm a huge HeroScape fan. Simple and fun, but still somewhat tactical. You could always try to find a copy of Warhammer Quest, but eBay it will run $100+ or their are places you can download the bits and pieces and print it yourself...of course, you get no minis that way, but I'm sure one could be creative!
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