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Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
1.5" grid is all set, so I'm starting to piece together the actual tiles. With any luck, this weekend I'll be able to actually *gasp* print out a tile or three and put some walls in! But, it's 10:30pm and I'm totally exhausted. It'll have to wait.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
As expected, the printout was WAAAAAY too dark. Not "I gotta tell the printer to lighten up the print" dark. This was "Uuh... dad? Were you going for some sort of nighttime scene here?" dark.
Printer is working on test print #2, with the levels adjusted waaaaay up. You'd think I'd learn that what looks sexy and atmospheric on my huge, bright monitor is going to look like a 300dpi turd on paper...
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
D'oh! Lightening up the image made it look better, though I did it quick-and-dirty to get the test print done, and it's clear some of the layers need less adjustment than others.
What became painfully obvious in my test print is the unfortunate shading on my turns:
I'll have to go back over all of the tracks and fix them up so the shadows are correct. What I'll likely do is make it so there's no directionality to the shadow, so you can rotate the tiles any which way and they'll still look ok.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Thanks for the kind words!
Work has been unusually crushing and demoralizing lately, and I haven't managed to budge an inch in a while. By the time I get home, get the kids in bed, and get chores done, I barely have the energy to read a chapter in a book before falling asleep! I'm hoping there's a light at the end of the tunnel, and I'll be back to a normal crushing and demoralizing workload in a week or two...
I might work on a step-by-step set of instructions for how I made the rails, since I need to redo them, and I want to make sure I remember what it is I actually did!
WorldWorks Moderator Joined: 03-01-2007, 10:26 AM Posts: 1975 Location: Chicago, Il
Mproteau, I totally understand where you are. Work has sucked the life out of me also. I've got three big kitbashes sitting on my computer and have been too exhausted from the last six months to get them finished.
So don't stress, I love what you have done so far, but life happens to us all sometimes.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face-- Harry Dresden
work is sucking the life out of me as well, but I did manage to print out and take pictures of the curved walls for Himmelveil Streets....look for them shortly...
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Question about grids... Should the rails be 1.5" apart, for a 1.5" grid system? They're 1" apart right now. I never use 1.5" grids.
I have been spending most of my free time reading old Dragonlance books, and about the closest I've come to paper *crafting* is refilling my ink carts so my wife can continue printing work-related papers. I found a little bit of motivation and tried to adjust the rails and lighting on one tile to see how it would print out.
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Sadly, I didn't have enough motivation to cope with the fact that the printout still came out WAY TOO DARK. I'm not sure - I might have used the wrong print settings, or I might have confused cardstock for photo paper. It doesn't help that my kids have figured out how to tweak the monitor settings so they can better see in the dark while playing minecraft.
I'm going to try to fix up the railings on the other tiles (eliminating the directionality of the shine...) this week and continue to get the color balance right. Then, I'll get back to the walls.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Cool. Fixing up the tracks turned out to be easy, and I've increased the brightness of some of the layers, so all that stands between me and happiness is a good test print!
Its lookin' like I'll have something like: 8x 6" walls featuring lamps, rubble, picks, shovels and buckets 8x 3" walls featuring lamps, rubble, picks, shovels, buckets and doors 10x 6" tiles in all grid formats, with and without anchors featuring simple rails and/or puddles. I can imagine some hallway tiles with rails on em, and 3" tiles with dirt/puddles on em.
I'm almost done with all that, which will let me move on to some props! round top table. Something simple. Maybe with various stuff on it like coins, maps etc. chair or stool. Again - crude. minecart. maybe one of wood, one of metal. buffers to stop the rail cars.
And, I'm thinking of things to let percolate in my head... simple tile set to make murky underground lakes/rivers. walls featuring more natural cave features (like the stalactites from the hinterland cliffs...)
But, that's just stuff to keep me doodling on paper... Gotta get a good test print!!!
Can I make a request? One of the things that drives me nuts about some of WWG's TLX sets is that they tend to combine different types of walls or tiles on the same page. If you don't want those other textures/elements, you're still forced to print them out 'cuz they're on the same page. (unless you edit the pages in GIMP/PhotoShop)
For example, in Lair of the Dragon God: the 3" walls tend to have 3 walls that are identical and 1 wall that has lava flowing or something like that. If you don't want any lava in your build, you are still stuck printing those walls out. That can add up to a good amount of wasted ink and paper. If they had put those lava walls on a separate page, then a person who wants them can print out 4 of them with just 1 page.
So, if you DO release this as a Kitbash, please group identical walls/tiles on the same page rather than combining.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
I totally get what you're saying, and it's a good point. I'm not sure I'll suffer much from that, but when I get closer to building PDFs, I'll post a contact sheet with thumbnails so you can see the wall layout.
Piston Joined: 07-30-2004, 08:41 AM Posts: 449 Location: USA
Layered pdf's would be a great help. You could turn the lava on or off depending on your needs. Same for all of the vines, trees, shrubs, cracks, and other extra stuff that shows up on the walls, furniture, and ground tilel of WWG pieces. Building a large layout gets to be a bit repetitive when the pieces have the same vegetative growth, damage, or items.
Different textures could be included also. If you want a building with different kinds of stone walls or different kinds of wood walls you could turn on what ever layer is needed to get them. You could also have different kinds of weathering effects on diffierent layers that could be added as wanted.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Back 'on track'...
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This'll be the side of a wooden mine cart. Actually, that's both the exterior and interior - it folds in half in the middle there. I might shrink it vertically when all is said and done. I think it's going to be way out of scale for what I want. It's easy enough to tweak that later.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Ya know... I forgot that one of the DeadFall sets has train tracks in it. I'll buy the set and take a look to see if it'd make more sense to reuse those textures, rather than have my own. That way, the sets stand a chance of working *well* together...
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
It's gonna be a fair bit of work to use the DeadFall rails... I wish I had more skill (or better technology?) to know how to go about warping the rails to make the bends. I'll try a number of things to see what happens. It would be much nicer if the tiles lined up.
I don't like the decision to put the rail in the center of the tile, but that's where it is. The reason I like it off-center is because it frees up the TLX anchors on the tile for making narrow tunnels and terrain features. So, if I want to stick with mine, I need to invent an adapter tile... Bending at anything other than 90 degrees is a pain for me, but I'll try to get creative.
Gear Head Joined: 07-16-2011, 04:36 PM Posts: 934 Location: Galesburg IL
I encourage you to go with the development of the off-center rails - with adapters to connect to the existing standards. Somewhere on my list is something similar for the old Mayhem Rail for TLX.
~I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albequerque... but I know where my towel is!
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Ok. This has come back around, finally. I spent a few minutes this morning and was able to bend the DeadFall rails in much the same way I did my own, and they don't look totally horrible (I think) so I'll run with it. The DeadFall rails are a little bit wider apart than the ones I did, so I'll try to be conscious of the dimensions of the WWG set. The part I'm fiddling with now are the ties. They're gonna be some work either extracting them from the existing image, making my own, or something.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Compare this to where I started.
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Much brighter tiles, I will probably make the gravel under the tracks less brown (blends too much right now) and I'll go back and add some gravel over the ties too. I stole the ties off of the DeadFall Building Essentials large storefront walls. I'll try to tone down some of the really bright spots on them.
Just for my own reference... I added a 15px dropshadow at 80% opacity under the rails, offset 0,0. I added a 25px dropshadow at 90% opacity under the ties, offset 0,0.
I know I'll want to have written that down somwhere when I start making the other ties and I try to reproduce the same effect.
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Tried plunking a corner in. It's a nicer bend than by other 90 degree turn - this one is a little softer - doesn't necessarily look like the cart would always tip off.
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I spent just enough time to convince myself that I can move the spots around where the rails are attached to the ties, so I can make things look less sloppy. But, I'll live with sloppy now.
I'm going to try a connector rail that would sync things up with the DeadFall tile now.
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
This is going to take some work, getting the ties lined up correctly. I think the tracks are ok as is, though I am fighting my OCD to say that...
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Gear Head Joined: 07-16-2011, 04:36 PM Posts: 934 Location: Galesburg IL
Looking good there, mproteau. The tight curve you have for the mine rail works. When I finally get around to working on my Mayhem Rail YLX kitbash I will make it a more softer large curve sweep.
~I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albequerque... but I know where my towel is!
Dirigible Joined: 12-06-2010, 07:16 AM Posts: 1487 Location: Massachusetts
Yeah - I didn't really think hard about the math when I made the bend. I knew I had to scale the original image to get the bent rail to be the right thickness. Maybe I'll make another curved rail with a softer bend. Nothing says one more tile option would be a bad thing.
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