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That's a toughie. While a school has been talked about a time or two, no effort has been made to actually create one. There's a lot about it that's not going to be readily recreatable with the existing sets.
All of the Urban sets support the 1.5" tiles to one extent or another, as do many of the other sets.
I'm assuming that when you say you have "Urban Mayhem", you actually mean you have "Streets of Mayhem". That'll help for the surrounding streets.
It's cheating a bit, since it hasn't been released yet...not even promo pics...but your first "Must Have" set for this project is going to be Mayhem PD. It has a construction style better suited to what you're after, and grounds, floor, exterior wall and roof textures all suited to a school as well or better than anything else currently available.
The best bet I can think of for your classrooms is going to be InteriorWorks: Pubs and Inns. It has a lot of basic wooden chairs that come closest (of what's available) to school chairs, and for desks you can perhaps make up several of the 1" square tables and cut them in half. A inch-by-half-inch wood table with a chair tucked under it would be a close semblance of a school chair and desk..should serve the purpose anyways.
You'll want a nice, big gym, and for that you can use the wood texture of Pubs and Inns again, and possably one of my earlier kitbashes: the Basketball Court:
Of course, you're also going to want the basketball hoops, which you'll find in Bits of Mayhem (along with a city bus which can do stand-in duty as a schoolbus), a chain link fence, and ever so much more.
You can shoehorn some of the Pubs & Inns elements into a cafeteria. It won't look quite like a school, but it should serve the purpose.
You may not want to go to the expense, since you're a Clix player and not a D&D player, but issue #107 of Dungeon Magazine had a miniatures-gridded version of a public high school in their "Global Positioning" article. Plan big...the thing takes up two full pages. Done in D20 (1") grids, the map is roughly 6' by 4'.
Good luck with your project! It sounds like it will be ambitious, but a lot of fun as well.
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Gear Head Joined: 04-13-2006, 08:46 AM Posts: 836 Location: Arlington, Tx
ooo, modeling an actual building.
I have done it for various historic models but its a long tedious process, since you came here I woudl have to assume you dont mean form scratch using field measurements and so on.
*SO*
Offhand, depending what the School is made of:
Bits of Mayhem for grey stone type buildings.
Mayhem Downtown for some bricks and other block buildings.
Note neither of those have interiors.
Mayhem armoury give you some interiors + brick exterior.
Mayhem Industrial gives you some cinderblock textures and some metal panel siding. You may also find the interiors on this usable for a basic school type wall.
Streets of Mayhem for parking lot/ roads around the school.
Shellendrak Manor *may* have somethign useful, it really depends what type of floors you have.
Might be better if you post a pick of the school, I'm sure you would get alot of pointers.
last, I'm sur eI don't need to point out the amount of bashing you will need to do to pull this off.
COG Joined: 06-28-2007, 12:40 PM Posts: 107 Location: McAllen, TX (right smack in the middle of the Rio Grande Valley)
Thank you all for your advice. Since this will be a more permanent board, I was thinking of using some sort of plywood or thin particle board for the master board and using foam core for the walls and just the regular cardstock for the props. I found some cheap (in price and quality) foam coar at a local store called Dollar Tree. They have a box of fifty boards 20" X 30" for fifty dollars. That's one dollar per board But like I said, the quality is really not there.
If its a really large permanent board, a more rigid board might to good. But for normal use I've always used the dollar store foamcore and I've never had any problems. Although the size isn't exactly what I want, its 29 3/4" x 20". But that seems to be an issue with foamcore in general lately.
Is the school cinder block or brick?
There are a lot of mayhem kitbashes that might provide textures for the walls and floors you might like. Theres also a bunch of stairway options.
You may want to try doing the desks from scratch. You could adapt P&I props but plank furniture might seem out of place in a modern building. The chairs in PD might be better but you'd still need a desk.
But PD willl have loads of stuff that would be useful, computers, phones, blackboards, copymachines, bathroom fixtures, cabinets....
Shellendrak has that globe prop, and the book shelf wall prop might be useful as well.
COG Joined: 06-28-2007, 12:40 PM Posts: 107 Location: McAllen, TX (right smack in the middle of the Rio Grande Valley)
Sounds like a great idea.....if I knew how to use Photoshop or The Gimp. I was playing around with Sketchup and have completed a simple urban setting. I am currently working on the subway bridges and the pedestrian overpass that are in the Streets of Mayhem set. It's taking me a while, but I am learning how to use this great tool. Below is the link to the first map made with shapes that I have finised. It's crude, but practice makes perfect.
COG Joined: 06-28-2007, 12:40 PM Posts: 107 Location: McAllen, TX (right smack in the middle of the Rio Grande Valley)
The interiors were kinda sorta done as seperate surfaces. When I tried to apply seperate textures to one rectangle to represent a wall, for example, I found that I had to play with the measurements of the texture itself, and then move the rectangle. When the rectangle is moved, the texture itself will stay put and you have to "fit" the texture onto the wall. Then I saved it as a component with a number one (1) at the end and then "Save as..." also with a one (1) at the end. Reopen the model with the one at the end and do the texture for the other side. Apply the texture for the other side and also play with the measurements and move the rectangle. When you move it around this time, one side will stay as is, and you can fit the side you are currently working on. Then save the component without the number one (1) and "Save as..." also without the numbe one. Although this takes a bit more time, you will get a better quality surface with textures on both sides. I did this for every wall, so you can imagine that I spent alot of time with it. You will need to do the surfaces as they would appear in your model. If you are doing a table top, for example, you will need to do a rectangle that faces up and apply the textures as stated before.
As far as the scale is concerned, I did use the 1"/1.5"=5' scale and it worked like butter.
As far as the resolution is concerned, all I did was export as a 2D image and it sets the resolution low enough so that you can post it @ the World Works Gallery. Check it out, I have made a new city and posted some new pics of my SketchUp city. Check the link. If you like, I can send you a sample model so that you can see how my models turn up. Just be forewarned, your husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend might get mad at you for staying at the computer for a long time. Each of these models took me a good three or four hours to complete!! I can say that I have become pretty good at making SketchUp models that are textured using WWG stuff. You will see the Mayhem Petroleum model. Believe it or not, I also included the two gas stations. Took me a while, but I had fun.
I have also made a movie, but I am not sure how to post it. Tell me what you think.
COG Joined: 06-28-2007, 12:40 PM Posts: 107 Location: McAllen, TX (right smack in the middle of the Rio Grande Valley)
I am not really sure what you mean by the textures being too good. The textures used are the original ones. The way I got them was opening up the PDF (using the most current Adobe Acrobat version), clicking on the texture that I want and then Ctrl+C (to copy if you are using a Windows machine). Then I opened up the paint program and Ctrl+V (to paste if you are using a Windows machine). Then I just cropped the image that I wanted and saved it. This would give me the image as a .bmp, which gives me the high resolution textures that I play with and apply. I don't really plan on using SketchUp to print my maps out, only to plan them out so resolution is of no concern to me.
I will try your method, it seems easier than mine. Yeah, it's kinda confusing and alot of work. I should have thought of that. I have really not experienced any slowdown with my computer, even though I use .bmp images which can really bog down a system if used alot.
I don't think there is a way to turn off the textures on your built components, but I have not really played with the software enough to know. Once you save your components, it does lock in the textures. Once I have the component saved, I go back and delete the .bmp from where I saved them to save on disk space.
Commander Joined: 07-19-2003, 03:24 AM Posts: 3425 Location: Sydney
Unless you are going to release these components then taking pictures/screenshots of SketchUp will not allow anyone to strip textures and steal them. Real photos do the same. I would not worry about "watermarking" items of personal use - you are just adding more trouble for yourself.
Also if the textured parts were sold by WWG there would be no greater threat than what there is with file sharing with .pdf - actually there should be less as everyone has a .pdf reader but few have SketchUp or even SketchUp Pro.
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