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Author:  xyzchyx [ 09-16-2010, 08:24 PM ]
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Author:  Sirrob01 [ 09-17-2010, 12:00 AM ]
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I'm not sure which texture your after but I just looked over the maiden and their appears to be plenty of deck texture area that can be duplicated up.

Basically using the lower deck as an example if you look at a piece rear hull (biggest clear patch) you can see that some of the boards repeat.. Simply look for those boards that have been cut that are whole and then place them across the white mast hole. If you can't find a board simply replace the whole board with another one of a similar colour/size. You may need to slightly stretch a board wider or add a bit to the end the fuzzy erase tool is your best friend for lengthening boards :) . basically duplicate the board overlay the two and align each end were you need it and fuzzy erase the nail holes you don't need on the top board.

Once you have that big piece of deck it should be large enough to cover any area you need if it's not simply meld two pieces together lengthways using the fuzzy erase tool and dropping in a few random boards to defeat the repeating pattern effect.

Here's a piece I put together as an example, it's a bit rough (desaturated):



Then you just cut out and overlay the bits and piece's of decoration you want over the top.

Happy to answer any questiosns :)

Author:  xyzchyx [ 09-17-2010, 07:47 AM ]
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Author:  Sirrob01 [ 09-17-2010, 01:42 PM ]
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Author:  ehisey [ 09-17-2010, 02:27 PM ]
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Author:  xyzchyx [ 09-17-2010, 06:42 PM ]
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Author:  Sacretis [ 09-17-2010, 06:50 PM ]
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Author:  Sirrob01 [ 09-17-2010, 07:21 PM ]
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If you get translucent bits try duplicating up the layer again and slide it horizontally or vertically under your fuzzy fix layer it should fill the translucence and look okay :)


It'll be a fair bit of work to recreate depending on how much of the ship shape your changing. As the upper decks and roof seem to be the same texture as the lower deck with some colouring alterations I'd make myself a big slab of deck as above. then work out what the new shapes are I need and overlay my deck texture into those shapes.

Then I'd add back the detail, clets, ropes,buckets etc by copying (vey tightly copied) them off the old deck and paste them onto mine so they fit in.

For the black fuzzy patchs and edge area I'd try a new layer at 10-15% opacity (might need more) and a wide spray tool, hard/soft light might also be needed, spray were you need the darker shadowed bits. masking might also be an option with a feathered edge for the outside darkness.

For the bits were it looks like old planks have been laid across the deck a new layer with a coloured rectangle of dark brown blurred a little then lower opacity and try setting it to hard/soft/dodge/burn see which looks best if that doesn't work I'd try a bump map on it (use deck main layer as bump layer) then try hard/soft etc again. you can also try some tricks of copying out and overlaying the deck texture as the rectangle and then do the above. I probably wouldn't worry about these bits.

Sorry if the above doesn't make much sense it's hard to explain in writing...I could probably do an example up with pic's if it'd help but it'd be based on GIMP as I don't use PS, but most stuff is interchangeable.


Ehisey nice plug in I'm going to be trying that out

Author:  xyzchyx [ 09-17-2010, 08:27 PM ]
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Author:  Sirrob01 [ 09-18-2010, 02:31 PM ]
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I'd definitely start from scratch on the stern castle bits then,sometimes building your own pieces up using the wwg parts and images is quicker than trying to mod an existing piece to fit.

I had a bit more of a play around to work out replication of the maiden decking look:



It's still a little clean looking and not perfect but it's a quick example :). The edge is a feather black layer set to overlay then duplicated and set to normal but at 15% opacity. I then did a smaller edge layer and repeated the above. the vent shading is done similar to the above but using a fuzzy paintbrush. Clets are simply cut out and drop shadowed. Mines not quiet as orange as the original maiden edging but adjusting and duplicating the overlay layer brings the orangeness up and down.

The board worn/shadow area is the least accurate and needs more work.

I did the above in about 5mins it's about 60-65% of the way to looking like other maiden deck bits when I compare them side by side, printed out it'd probably look ok sitting next to the other textures, although if I was doing it myself I'd spend more time refining it. Printers low-fi everything so don't go for exact just go for close ;).

On the repeating issue slide your board along more and feather the edges in you can also use the clone tool to create a new grain pattern/area for that board or as Sacretis has said start big and work down small :)

Not sure I'm helping very much... :cry:

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