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Author:  mproteau [ 04-24-2013, 09:02 AM ]
Post subject:  3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
I've been toying with Sketchup and PePaKuRa, and I think I'm getting the hang of it! My first prop from this endeavor is a stone pool or fountain.

I used HV wall bricks underneath a layer of water from the Maiden masterboard.

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I used the bricks again for the part of the fountain that rises up in the middle. I found a lion fountainhead (I might need to change this a bit...) and made it grey-scale, then created a layer of brick on top of it to give it the same color/texture as the HV walls have.

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I haven't had a chance to print/cut/assemble it, so it may be a total disaster. I love PePaKuRa, and will buy a full license tonight so I can *save* work. I am going to try a couple different ways of laying it out on paper to see what assembles better. I have a feeling the way it's laid out now will be more fiddly than it needs to be.
Author:  BigBadBull [ 04-24-2013, 10:24 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Nice. :ymapplause:
Author:  oldschooldm [ 04-24-2013, 11:28 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Author:  mproteau [ 04-24-2013, 01:18 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Hah! So, having made this model in spare minutes between work activities, I decided to search for "papercraft fountain" and see what already exists. It would appear that my fountain isn't exactly gonna be breaking huge new ground in the field of paper fountain design (and that's just by looking at fountains YOU have already built... he he he). :-P Still, can you ever have too many fountains?

At least it gave me something to cut my teeth on, and now I can experiment with the tools more, and learn about better layouts for actual construction, and just how small I can make things without driving people nutty. Already have too many ideas bouncing around in my head! Gotta focus on one thing at a time!
Author:  mproteau [ 04-24-2013, 05:48 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Well, I made it! It's not exactly how I want it, and it's way to fiddly for me to want to submit it as a kitbash. But still, I feel like I've made progress in prop making, and I'll continue to work on it as I have time.





Whatdya think? I think the fountain part in the middle should be a teeny bit smaller, and the lion head should be smaller by quite a bit. I also have to imagine that making the fountain base in two parts - one being a hollow hex, and then a solid hex for the water inserted in the middle - would be easier than assembling the little pieces. The tabs will be much bigger, and the assembly is more straight-forward.

I think, too, I'd like to make a wall-mounted fountain using the lion head - something that spits out into a basin on the wall.
Author:  oldschooldm [ 04-24-2013, 07:18 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Author:  DougT [ 04-25-2013, 04:12 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Author:  Akmor [ 04-25-2013, 04:56 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Author:  mproteau [ 04-25-2013, 05:38 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I agree with everything you're saying. The model ended up much different than how I started it, and that wall in the middle was really intended to be at the end of a longer, narrower fountain basin. I had no textures, either, so I was kinda winging it. I fully intend to have water spouting from his mouth. That's just the least of my worries right now... ;)

My current thinking is to make the outer ring as a solid, and the inner water area as a solid that slips into the outer ring. I might leave the inner area untextured, and make the water something that can be inserted or removed, so you can have a dry fountain, a water-filled fountain, a bloody fountain... etc.

I will be trying some other variants when I get a chance, and I'll see how I can improve on the designs.

@Akmor - Blending the lion head... I have only tried this once (here) so I don't know how often I'll get that lucky. Here's what I did:

1) I found an image of a lion head from a fountain. I tried to find one that was a large image with reasonable contrast, and not a lot of color. I spent some time erasing everything in the picture around the head, and I had to use the clone tool to eliminate the water coming out of its mouth.

2) I desaturated the image to leave me with a grayscale base to work with.

3) From the HV wall, I copied the contents of one brick to a new layer. I applied a filter to make it 'seamless', then copied and pasted it enough times so that it would completely cover the lion head. This wall layer goes above the lion head layer.

4) I set the wall layer's 'mode' to 'Hard Light' which seemed to blend it with the layer below it the best.

5) I selected the area containing the lion's head (alt-clicking on the layer in GIMP does this - selects all the non-transparent pixels), inverted the selection, and used that to delete the area of the wall layer I didn't need.

6) I added a dropshadow around the lion head layer.

That's it! I'll be trying it again with a couple different images. My hope is that it works well enough that I can simply have a bunch of options for faces that can be printed, cut and pasted onto the fountain. I might make a circular area inset into the HV wall, and then you can glue whatever face you want into it. Just another thought to play with.
Author:  yosefbender [ 04-25-2013, 05:46 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
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if you print water on transparency paper it makes excellent water for a fountain, I've also used Saran wrap,

Here was a waterfall done with photo paper and a little hot glue
Author:  ScrubKai [ 04-25-2013, 07:57 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Oh very cool.
And I really appreciate the instructions on how you did this in gimp. That will help me a to with some of the stuff I've been playing around with lately.
Author:  Akmor [ 04-25-2013, 08:25 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
Thanks for the how-to.
I really like the idea of fontain insert, allowing multiple use of the fontain. And yes, printing the liquid on transparency seems a good idea
Author:  tatteredking [ 04-26-2013, 03:58 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
nice work, mproteau! I have a thought though. What if the lion head was on a 3" wall, and the basin of the fountain jutted out from the wall?
Author:  Zenguy [ 04-26-2013, 02:57 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
My votes for option D: All of the above. But even one of these beauties would be superb.
Author:  Colonel Shofer [ 04-26-2013, 04:59 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
I am liking this :)

CS
Author:  adamcboyd [ 04-28-2013, 01:30 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: 3D Prop - Himmelveil Fountain
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